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now, the governor rick snyder is expected to sign this legislation when and if it hits his desk. a lot of folks here believe that this is a back door attempt at trying to limit democracy in the state of michigan. you can hear some of the protests behind me and union workers here believe it's a direct attempt at trying to break the backs of the unions as i should say and a lot of folks believe that this is payback for the result of the election on november 6th. the re-election of president obama. i spoke with the head of the chamber of commerce here in michigan. he believes this is going to be beneficial to the state. helps him go around the country and around the world promoting jobs in michigan. this will make business more pro-friendly here in michigan. now, some of the workers here today believe it's an issue of fairness. that they believe all the advances that union leadership over the generations have helped to put in effect here in this state are essentially going to be taken advantage of nonpaying members. here's what a member had to say this morning. >> you bring a nonuni
now, the governor rick snyder is expected to sign this legislation when and if it hits his desk. a lot of folks here believe that this is a back door attempt at trying to limit democracy in the state of michigan. you can hear some of the protests behind me and union workers here believe it's a direct attempt at trying to break the backs of the unions as i should say and a lot of folks believe that this is payback for the result of the election on november 6th. the re-election of president...
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republican governor rick snyder is expected to sign that bill into law. too would make michigan the 24th state to approve a right to work law, which exempts employees in a union workplace from joining or paying dues to that union. meanwhile, pro-union protesters are swarming the michigan capital building in lansing in scenes reminiscent of the battles over union rights in wisconsin and in ohio last year. david corn, we -- the president has sort of -- was in michigan yesterday, and bundled this into a bigger message about the middle class, working americans. is this a good time for republicans to be on the side -- well, against workers rights in the context of this broader conversation we're having? >> you know, we shall see here because they clearly have the votes and snyder says he is going to do this. you see the response. you saw the response in wisconsin. their walker survived the fight. i assume this will be as big, if not bigger, and the uaw, of course, the unions are even stronger in michigan than they are in wisconsin, so, you know, this will be a
republican governor rick snyder is expected to sign that bill into law. too would make michigan the 24th state to approve a right to work law, which exempts employees in a union workplace from joining or paying dues to that union. meanwhile, pro-union protesters are swarming the michigan capital building in lansing in scenes reminiscent of the battles over union rights in wisconsin and in ohio last year. david corn, we -- the president has sort of -- was in michigan yesterday, and bundled this...
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snyder yesterday. this was the scene outside of the state capitol in lansing yesterday, where more than 10,000 protesters gathered as the house legislature passed that law. joining me is andy potter, vice president of the michigan corrections organization and chair of seiu's republican national advisory committee. good to have you here. because law makers in michigan attached a spending measure to the right to work bills, they can't be rescinded through a referendum but as politico is pointing out, labor unions are staging a counter attack on this. explain why right to work for people, that's supposed to be for the good of the people, would not therefore be put up for a right to be voted on by the people, and now seems entrenched in the fact that it can't go to a referendum. >> well, outside of the referendum, we are ramping up different kinds of opportunities. we are going to reach out to community partners and we are going to be continuing the conversation for two years until we can use the ballot sy
snyder yesterday. this was the scene outside of the state capitol in lansing yesterday, where more than 10,000 protesters gathered as the house legislature passed that law. joining me is andy potter, vice president of the michigan corrections organization and chair of seiu's republican national advisory committee. good to have you here. because law makers in michigan attached a spending measure to the right to work bills, they can't be rescinded through a referendum but as politico is pointing...
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they have to pass the other ones, and then rick snyder, we expect, to sign it. one thing that's interesting, ohio, something similar happened, and you saw a ballot initiative that actually repealed the right to work legislation. that's not likely to happen here because in the state constitution you can't repeal a spending bill, ask there was an appropriation, a spending measure, attached to this legislation. so it's going to be harder to overturn it. that doesn't mean people won't protest. it dent mean it won't become a national story, as it's already becoming, but getting it repealed or at least even the process of repeeling could be a lot more difficult. >> now, the president today in michigan is still doing the public campaigning, and this is beginning to pay off. you see real negotiations taking place. what do we know happened at the white house between the president and speaker boehner this weekend? >> we don't know all that much because they put out statements that said literally the exact same thing. it was a good conversation, blah, blah, blah, blah, bla
they have to pass the other ones, and then rick snyder, we expect, to sign it. one thing that's interesting, ohio, something similar happened, and you saw a ballot initiative that actually repealed the right to work legislation. that's not likely to happen here because in the state constitution you can't repeal a spending bill, ask there was an appropriation, a spending measure, attached to this legislation. so it's going to be harder to overturn it. that doesn't mean people won't protest. it...
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even though the governor, rick snyder, didn't talk about it, but mary kay henry wanted to make a final point. >> i just disagree with the idea that it's wait and see. we know that ohio, missouri, kansas are all considering right to work legislation in january, and i agree with the last speaker's point. this is a 30-year assault to dismantle worker organization because it allows the wealthy incorporations to set low wages and put profits above people in this country, and it destroys our democracy because workers have the resources to be able to fight not just for union rights, but for environmental protections, for voting rights. >> for women. >> for protecting planned parenthood, for immigration rights, and that's why there is going to be such a systematic attack. now that they couldn't suppress the vote, they're now going to try to take worker organizations off the playing field for 2014 and 2016. >> that's a different point than i was making. i think it's much less likely this time, legislation like this. >> scott walker said today or yesterday that he will not pursue right to work l
even though the governor, rick snyder, didn't talk about it, but mary kay henry wanted to make a final point. >> i just disagree with the idea that it's wait and see. we know that ohio, missouri, kansas are all considering right to work legislation in january, and i agree with the last speaker's point. this is a 30-year assault to dismantle worker organization because it allows the wealthy incorporations to set low wages and put profits above people in this country, and it destroys our...
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and rick snyder just breaking with that tradition. so congressman, what happens -- i have to say for current tv, this would not have happened if our current tv's jennifer granholm were still governor of michigan. >> absolutely. >> bill: right? >> absolutely. you know, it is such a step backward. it is such a step backward. it goes back 67 years. international relations act essentially said america's better off if workers have a voice. what made the middle class of michigan? >> bill: sure. union workers. >> where does the union movement go? this is a big blow. what should they learn from this going forward so this doesn't happen in other states because as i understand it, right-to-work laws are in about half the states. >> bill: now 24. michigan is 24. >> i think it means work harder. the labor movement has worked hard. what it means i think is having a stronger conversation in america about whether we want workers to have a voice in the workplace. and if they don't what are the consequences? you know, we've had a flattening of income
and rick snyder just breaking with that tradition. so congressman, what happens -- i have to say for current tv, this would not have happened if our current tv's jennifer granholm were still governor of michigan. >> absolutely. >> bill: right? >> absolutely. you know, it is such a step backward. it is such a step backward. it goes back 67 years. international relations act essentially said america's better off if workers have a voice. what made the middle class of michigan?...
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this is outside of governor rick snyder's office. there has been a sit-in in the governor's office, a sit-in until the media was removed from the entry of the governor's office. so the debate is is not over but this is the law of the land, just a pen stroke away from being the law of the land here in the state of michigan. incredibly symbolic for this country and organized labor in america. >> all right. poppy is on the scene for us in lansing michigan. >>> here in washington, everyone's eyes are on the calendar. this friday, the house of representatives is supposed to break for the holidays. christmas is exactly two weeks from today. so when are we going to get a deal on taxes and spending cuts? our senior congressional correspondent dana bash is up on capitol hill. what are you hearing, dana? >> reporter: the senate majority leader who told me he's one of the biggest pessimists says he thinks it's going to be very difficult to get a deal done by christmas. meanwhile, republicans don't have a lot of opposition to raising the tax rat
this is outside of governor rick snyder's office. there has been a sit-in in the governor's office, a sit-in until the media was removed from the entry of the governor's office. so the debate is is not over but this is the law of the land, just a pen stroke away from being the law of the land here in the state of michigan. incredibly symbolic for this country and organized labor in america. >> all right. poppy is on the scene for us in lansing michigan. >>> here in washington,...
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once that happens, it's expected to go to governor rick snyder's desk. he is expected to sign it, despite the fact that he did have an hour of intense meetings with democratic congressional delegation from here yesterday where they were asking him to veto this decision or at least delay the decision. he said he would consider their concerns but the likelihood is, if that bill reaches his desk, he will put his signature on it, zoraida. >> we're looking at video right now. we see a little bit of police presence there. they're expecting 10,000 unionized workers to show up today. do they have some security measures in place? >> oh, yeah, they definitely do. you're seeing road closures around the capital. there are parking restrictions in place. you know, if last week is any indication when thousands of people descended on the capital, today aets expected to be even more intense because we're getting closer and closer to that final approval, yes. we've seen even yesterday when i was out here, police were getting ready for what the onslaught of demonstrators a
once that happens, it's expected to go to governor rick snyder's desk. he is expected to sign it, despite the fact that he did have an hour of intense meetings with democratic congressional delegation from here yesterday where they were asking him to veto this decision or at least delay the decision. he said he would consider their concerns but the likelihood is, if that bill reaches his desk, he will put his signature on it, zoraida. >> we're looking at video right now. we see a little...
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governor rick snyder once called the legislation divisive is backing the plan. >> this is somely focused on their relationship. shouldn't they have an opportunity to belong or not? it is good for economic development for more jobs coming to michigan. >> union workers disagree and argue that mish mishh was built on unions and clam that the gop majority legislature is attacking the middle class. >> it is important. they will try to reconcile the bills and the governor who didn't want the legislation is signing. we'll not stand for it >> over the weekend they continued to prepare members for staging demonstrations against did the measure. if the vote goes through, it will hurt organized labor but governor snyder said it is not about hurting unions but seeing it as proworker legislation. president obama will comment on this issue when he speaks to autoworkers about the fiscal cliff . this is fresh on the heels of his first private meeting with johnn boehner on the fiscal cliff subject. they met in the white house to discuss the differing plans and the communication lines between the two rema
governor rick snyder once called the legislation divisive is backing the plan. >> this is somely focused on their relationship. shouldn't they have an opportunity to belong or not? it is good for economic development for more jobs coming to michigan. >> union workers disagree and argue that mish mishh was built on unions and clam that the gop majority legislature is attacking the middle class. >> it is important. they will try to reconcile the bills and the governor who didn't...
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snyder and he decided to end this program the bond still existed for this town of pontiac michigan that had built this studio when the bill for the studios bond interest came due in february of this year it paid only a portion two hundred ten thousand dollars the state pension fund had to pick up the remaining four hundred twenty thousand dollars so new york times contacted linda nelson the guy behind this bond offering the guy who built the studio and one of his partners a mr rick oust. we were koski him mr nelson said in separate interviews that they had never considered personally paying for the bond interest a deal is a deal they said and the state agreed to cover the bond so max can you compare that for us to ireland for example great they are simply claiming that for their interpretation of the contract they don't need to pay and they walked away from the deal and the people who got stung have to sue them and they'll never get the money back vs ireland where it was unsecured debtors to angle irish bank they never had an obligation to pay those debtors and yet the government is for
snyder and he decided to end this program the bond still existed for this town of pontiac michigan that had built this studio when the bill for the studios bond interest came due in february of this year it paid only a portion two hundred ten thousand dollars the state pension fund had to pick up the remaining four hundred twenty thousand dollars so new york times contacted linda nelson the guy behind this bond offering the guy who built the studio and one of his partners a mr rick oust. we...
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there's no recourse for the people affected most by this particular -- now, do i think that rick snyder has made himself a one-term governor, yes but the damage is already done. >> stephanie: somebody said yesterday, if this is the right thing, why are you doing it in the dark, with no committee hearings? >> why is he doing it in a lame duck session when the answer is of course you don't have the votes when the new legislature comes together. >> stephanie: we were just saying on its face, seems to be a lot of political payback going on. >> this is the last gasp of an old order. i read something about ten minutes ago which said that the republicans seem to be content to litigate the 2012 election forever. >> stephanie: right. >> they're doubling down on voter suppression. they're doubling down -- guy in florida the other day saying -- as much as admitting the voter i.d. laws are voter suppression on the part of republicans. you've got this thing in michigan. it is like they've got this last chance to get everything they want and they're really pushing everything advantage they have. >> s
there's no recourse for the people affected most by this particular -- now, do i think that rick snyder has made himself a one-term governor, yes but the damage is already done. >> stephanie: somebody said yesterday, if this is the right thing, why are you doing it in the dark, with no committee hearings? >> why is he doing it in a lame duck session when the answer is of course you don't have the votes when the new legislature comes together. >> stephanie: we were just saying...
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snyder's desk and he is expected to sign it. >> alison kosik. thank you. >>> big story in washington, d.c., no news at all. silence about the fiscal cliff. the president and the house speaker john boehner holding closed door meetings to work out a deal or try to. 21 days and counting away from tax hikes and spending cuts going into affect. and congress breaks for christmas on friday. here is where things stand. the president hitting the road to sell his tax plan to -- at a truck plant to workers in michigan. and there are fiscal cliff talks and on capitol hill for a single day, all was quiet. that's always bad news if you are a political reporter, shannon travis live in washington, d.c.. there are some people who say well, let's read into the silence, because that's all we're getting and it's good news. do you feel that way? >> could be potentially good news. there is this notion of not negotiating through the media. the stakes are high, puts pressure on both sides. so on? that sense, as much as we would love to know what's going on in these dis
snyder's desk and he is expected to sign it. >> alison kosik. thank you. >>> big story in washington, d.c., no news at all. silence about the fiscal cliff. the president and the house speaker john boehner holding closed door meetings to work out a deal or try to. 21 days and counting away from tax hikes and spending cuts going into affect. and congress breaks for christmas on friday. here is where things stand. the president hitting the road to sell his tax plan to -- at a truck...
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snyder says he will sign it. they have to tinker with it tomorrow to do some little --fine tune can, but we just heard from steve cook with the michigan education association that as of tomorrow, michigan will be a right to work state. this is a big slap in the face for organized labor. >> well, we know that organized labor isn't the problem. look at the evidence shown in michigan, ohio and all of these areas that were affected by previously the downsizing in the automobile industry, uaw and management got together. now, you have profit sharing, people back to work, more shifts, more marketability of these new efficient hybrid vehicles. what's wrong with that >> bill: very much a part of that equation. >> they gave up a lot. it's not like they are unwilling to do that. who are you going to short-circuit here? you are going to short-circuit the american public and the work evers overall? unions have been shrinking. you can't just keep blaming one group of individuals. it's misguided unfortunately. >> it's pretty c
snyder says he will sign it. they have to tinker with it tomorrow to do some little --fine tune can, but we just heard from steve cook with the michigan education association that as of tomorrow, michigan will be a right to work state. this is a big slap in the face for organized labor. >> well, we know that organized labor isn't the problem. look at the evidence shown in michigan, ohio and all of these areas that were affected by previously the downsizing in the automobile industry, uaw...
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governor rick snyder says he'll sign it. michigan will become the 24th u.s. right to work staid state. >>> and cnbc is taking to washington today as we send becky quick, larry kudlow and jim cramim cramer to the white . they'll be leading off with a special mission critical rise above d.c. report. it's part tax. read, becky? >> like you said, we are occupying washington. this is where we've camped out all night. there's been all this talk about the fiscal cliff. we know it is fact approaching. we know it is something that would threaten not only the united states economy, but the economies around the globe. if we go over that cliff, there will be steep cuts and spending and steep tax increases that would automatically kick in. what we're doing here today is talking to our elected officials, talking to people who are involved in these talks, trying to figure out what will happen, where we are and if there's any way to avoid that cliff, if there's a good way to come about with tax reform and a close look at what's been happening on the spending side, as well. w
governor rick snyder says he'll sign it. michigan will become the 24th u.s. right to work staid state. >>> and cnbc is taking to washington today as we send becky quick, larry kudlow and jim cramim cramer to the white . they'll be leading off with a special mission critical rise above d.c. report. it's part tax. read, becky? >> like you said, we are occupying washington. this is where we've camped out all night. there's been all this talk about the fiscal cliff. we know it is...
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alisyn: tune into "your world" with neil cavuto at rick snyder joins neil on his latest on the right to work fight. where he sees this issue going amid widespread opposition. we are getting reports opposition protesters broke through military barricades surrounded can the presidential palace a couple hours ago. hundreds getting through. once the barbed wire was caught, some climbing onto army tanks, others head together walls of the palace. this happening a day after mohamed morsi spoke to the nation, refusing to back down from his power grab. 7 are now dead and 700 are injured. this crisis is in its third week in a country that is critical to keeping peace in the region. >> reporter: alisyn, it was 24 hours since the egyptian president mohamed morsi addressed his country. as we can see it is a country that's still sharply divide at this hour. thousands and thousands are on the street today in tahrir square and also outside the presidential palace demonstrating against the president. as you just reported, we did see a number of protesters breaking through barricades outside the presi
alisyn: tune into "your world" with neil cavuto at rick snyder joins neil on his latest on the right to work fight. where he sees this issue going amid widespread opposition. we are getting reports opposition protesters broke through military barricades surrounded can the presidential palace a couple hours ago. hundreds getting through. once the barbed wire was caught, some climbing onto army tanks, others head together walls of the palace. this happening a day after mohamed morsi...